I think you only need a single preset for that. Why do you think you need 2 of them?
It was always the case on Windows; however, there is no any validation in the application for that so technically a user can set a partial preset as a default preset.
I cannot explain this behavior in DxO PhotoLab 4 for macOS. For me it looks like a bug there.
if I apply a full preset with the tone curve (even if it hasn’t been edited), after an image has already been edited, it will overwrite everything that has just been edited.
if I use a partial preset without a tone curve as the default preset, the tone curve shows the weird 6502 and cannot be properly edited.
As is the case for PL3 for Mac.
Remember, this has only become a problem in PL4 for Mac. So, yes, I would say it is definitely a bug.
Do I need to report it officially or has it already been noted from these discussions?
I had to create it from a full preset because it is impossible to add the tone curve to an empty preset or, in fact, to any preset that doesn’t already contain the tone curve.
Many thanks. Maybe it’s best if I signal them to this thread in a DM.
Thank you Calle for your video. Its the first time, I do understand now, what this discussion is about And can confirm, the same for me on latest Catalina with latest PL4.1.1. But for me it doesn’t matter, because it’s not my kind of workflow. But understand it could be annoying.
Nevertheless, DPL lets me select any preset for default, be the preset provided or self-made, a full or a partial preset. I propose that DxO limit the eligibility of presets for default and comment it, be it as a comment in the settings or as a popup.
Your statement provokes a few questions too:
what are the differences between e.g. an active tone curve which is reset vs. a tone curve that is switched off or not used at all?
Which tools provoke different output images when set passive vs. active and zeroed?
Leaving any tool in a preset but not active, reverts the setting for that tool when the preset is applied.
I thought the whole premise of partial presets was that they only touched those tools that are selected as part of the preset.
So far, I have not been able to find any other tool that fails to cooperate with being used in both full and partial presets. It seems to be solely the tone curve in PL4 on a Mac that refuses to play nicely.
And why not use a partial preset as default?
Imagine you just want to add a watermark as partial preset and use it for default. What’s wrong about that?
I agree that users should not care about whether a full or a partial preset is set as default in the application preferences. I would consider this as a bug.
If a default value of a correction doesn’t affect an image, then active \ inactive state doesn’t change anything.
The architecture of the application requires all settings to be associated with an image, even if they all are inactive and do not affect an image in any way. But it’s an implementation detail that should not disturb you.
This all started when I was helping someone in these forums to create a preset, based on the DxO Optical corrections only preset. Why? Because the aspect ratio isn’t checked in the distortion tool and that was important for his lens.
Because he wanted to be able to apply it retrospectively, I copied the DxO preset and unchecked everything else, to make a partial preset.
That worked fine as long as you had already used a full preset to start with.
I also wanted to use the same preset for both retrospective changes and as a default as well.
Which is where this whole sorry saga began
Yeah, right. I started with Windows 3.0 and finally broke free at the time of Windows XP, when I was heavily involved in C# programming of a massive business management application.
My old Dell laptop was showing its age and a good friend suggested that a 17" MacBook Pro cost less than a Windows equivalent. So, I installed Parallels and XP and there was simply no going back.
After a while, I discovered that Xcode was free and so I started developing for OS X and iOS.
Yes, Objective-C and manual reference counting weren’t much fun but things soon changed and now we have Swift, which is far more interesting.
Nowadays I would struggle to find my way around Windows