What are the most important improvements for v5?

I agree Peter. I’d love to see the generic DNGs produced by Topaz Labs standalone apps supported. I use these apps frequently when working on my film negative scans. The DNG files these apps produce are far superior to the JPEGs that I get from my cheap film scanner.

@Joanna I think your mock-up is very close. Maybe differentiate the window by making it look different by changing the color, adding a border, or something like that.

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I would like not to see this in V5 but in V4, really soon now.

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I would love to see following:

  1. Clean up och compact functions in GUI so that we don’t need to go from one corner to a second and then to a third corner to accomplish tasks.
  2. Stop moving around the position of the photo when information boxes are displayed
  3. Option to export XMP-files together with the exported photos.
  4. Two edit tabs would be wicked as an extension of todays Starred and customized view. One tab with the full edit suite as it looks today and one Pure and ultra fast edit view for those who really just want to utilise the DxO Power with a bare minimum of input.
    A bit like Blackmagics Resolves feature where they fully transparent can go from the Full Edit page to a very fast and lightweight Cut Page by switching between tabs.
  5. AI/ML based dirt-on-sensor analysis and cleanup.

Yes, the creative Vignetting from the Filmpack. I do love the set center though, something I wish other raw converters would implement. For me I like the look of the results for vignetting in C1 but it lacks control. Lightroom for me is second, when using highlight priority. It has a lot controls resulting in better results. PL comes in third in this regard, controls are okay but the end result is mediocre to me.

Some support for an HDR workflow would be great, for example support for OpenEXR input, and maybe tools for PQ or HLG grading.

Hi @BobNL,
thanks for your feedback.
Just one question: by “constrain to image option” do you mean that if your image has “black corners” because of the keystoning, when you open the crop tool, the by default selected area should be limited to the “visible” image only (not including the aforementioned black corners)? Or something likein LR, when you rotate the image? Or both? :wink:

Are you aware that you can create your own workspace - precisely specific to your personal preferences? … It will present itself when NONE of the defined tabs are active.
… That is, when they all look like this: image

See here for more info.

John M

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Both? I mean more or less the same as in LR or C1, when cropping the crop stays within the visible image. The current auto function always defaults to the center. When I then change the crop (almost always necessary) I would like to stay inside the image area, with no black corners. I shoot a lot of events (mainly dancesport) with dark backgrounds and it makes it extremely difficult to see the edges of the images. It makes me lose a lot of time when cropping.

Bob,

I’m with you on this, although for a somewhat different reason. I use the Perspective corrections (Force Parallel, Rectange, 8 Points) frequently, with Crop Correction set to “Auto based on keystoning”. However, I often find that the position of the crop is not the one I would choose and set about moving it (and sometimes resizing it). At this point the Crop Setting automatically switches to “Manual” which then doesn’t prevent me from altering the crop such that it exceeds the boundaries of the image. If it’s marginal I only notice this after closing the Crop tool, and then I have to re-enter the Crop tool and make a further adjustment.

I’d love a Crop tool option that prevented you from exceeding the boundaries of the image when re-positioning the crop, or making any other adjustment to it.

Yes I know and I use that all the time. :slight_smile:
I was thinking in more solitary way, a third clean tab, instead of as a sub set of the current page.
This to make it easier for beginners or those who seek just the bare minimum of control - yet would like top utilise the power of PL.

Tabs like this:
PhotoLibrary | Customize | Swift

And selecting Swift would give you the best tools and optimised automated settings in a very clean and highly perfected workspace built by DxO. No need to design and setup yourself.

Thanks for the details!
Yes, I guess we do all agree that the current crop tool is something that needs a serious upgrade in the future.

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I have crop in preset set as unrestricted and when i use my preset perspective at 85% i can have 2 clicks.
One on activate perspectivd and one at activate crop.
Then i have maximised image rectangle inside the curved image.
So i could reselect ratio as shot to resize after that.
This works quite fast. see video
afbeelding
slide horizon active then crop or slide perspective active then crop.

Horizon should have auto activate crop. And they should be organised in one toolwindow. Much less scrolling.
when i use the fast selective buttons:
afbeelding
they appear in this order.

Linux support with .net core (or whatever). V4 almost works in Linux with Wine, and this would be incredibly useful.

This is not so much an improvement as a rewrite. PhotoLab is written to run on macOS and Windows naively, it is two separate apps. There are all sorts of APIs that are particular to each platform and the UI is designed using native UI components for each platform. Added to which is the apparent reluctance of Linux users to pay for anything.

You could always use Virtual Box or VMWare Player to run Windows in a virtual machine on Linux

.NET as a whole is more about .NET Core these days. Most of the core code should be usable in .NET core. As for the UI aspects, while this has been a pain in the past, Xamarin Forms, and more recently, its replacement in the form of Project Maui is the way forward with desktop user interfaces in Microsoft land. https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/introducing-net-multi-platform-app-ui/

The Windows and Mac support from that is directly from Microsoft.

In terms of Linux users not paying for anything, this is a gross misunderstanding. DaVinci Resolve, Maya, etc. are great examples. If anything, due to a variety of subpar solutions, Linux users would be more than willing to part with some cash as opposed to switch to Windows. For example, I love using Darktable, but its noise reduction is nowhere near as good as DxO4 or Topaz Denoise. While spending my whole day in Linux, if I need advanced denoising, I have to switch over to Windows.

VirtualBox and VMWare are type 2 virtualisers and they don’t support gpu passthrough. This negates the utility when dealing with DNN based approaches that benefit from a gpu. In other words, it takes a lot lot longer to get things done in those VMs. Another option is kvm based virtualisation, for example with qemu. And while that can do gpu passthrough for desktops and some laptops, for anything using NVidia Optimus (or similar hybrid graphics), passing the GPU through properly is incredibly difficult. I still haven’t been able to get gpu passthrough working on my Dell Precision laptop.

I’d literally pay £100 premium on top of the price if I could get DxO Photolab on Linux.

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Which, last time I looked, involves licensing costs. I know that Visual Studio for Windows is a rental model but Xcode for macOS is totally free.

You might but how many other would?

Xamarin was acquired by Microsoft. Miguel and the whole team work for Microsoft now. There’s no additional costs. I think what you’re missing is that .NET as it was is dead, and .NET Core is what’s the “new” .NET going forward. .NET 5 is Core, .NET 6 is Core, etc. The legacy stuff is being supported for a while but surely newer versions of DxO should use current technologies, and not deprecated ones.

As for how many Linux users would pay, why not ask users of the things I mentioned. DaVinci Resolve, Maya, etc. offer Linux versions because they make money.

It still begs the question of just how big is the target customer base for a Linux version of anything.

Less than 2%? I can’t see that being grounds for spending too much time and money on porting such a specialist app, which already has a limited market amongst Windows and Mac users.

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forgot a wish to Santa Dxo

  • curve picking tool allowing to modify easily the selected zone