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[Guenterm (Win11, MAC OS, DPL 5, FP, VP, Nik4, Olympus)]

Hello,
I’ve started to work with the NIK Collection 3 and don’t know if I missunderstood one option

• export one Picture to SEP
• make some settings
• choose option for saving and come back later to continue
• save
• getting the TIFF File as expected
• open this file again with NIK Collection SEP
• don’t see my settings for example Filmtype Ilford Pan 100

I thought I will come back to the state i left the photo to make further adjustments.

At the moment for me it works only by save the settings as userdefined and assign them again

I forgot …it’s on Windows 10 20H2 system

what’s my mistake in thinking

[Guenterm (Win11, MAC OS, DPL 5, FP, VP, Nik4, Olympus)]

Hello,
what I have also noticed is that my plugin selector settings are different from the ones in the help under Non-destructive workflow (Nik Collection 3) (dxo.com)
mine are

in the help

Also after reinstall the NIK Collection nothing changed

[colin_g]

Exporting from PhotoLab yes? The dialogue you are seeing is the Export To dialogue when to transfer an image to Nik Collection you should use the Nik Collection button and then select the app you want.

[rrblint (Mark)]

@Guenterm

Hello,
I’ve started to work with the NIK Collection 3 and don’t know if I missunderstood one option

• export one Picture to SEP
• make some settings
• choose option for saving and come back later to continue
• save
• getting the TIFF File as expected
• open this file again with NIK Collection SEP
• don’t see my settings for example Filmtype Ilford Pan 100

I thought I will come back to the state i left the photo to make further adjustments.

At the moment for me it works only by save the settings as userdefined and assign them again

I forgot …it’s on Windows 10 20H2 system

what’s my mistake in thinking

When you resend the Tiff file back to SEP make sure that you select “Export without processing” in the export options. “Process as Tiff” is only used the first time.

[Guenterm (Win11, MAC OS, DPL 5, FP, VP, Nik4, Olympus)]

Hi folks,

I’ve used the Nik Collection button and where is the “export without processing” dialog.
See my first scrennshot…that are my choices

Apple on my eyes ??

Thanks for all help

[rrblint (Mark)]

Export settings is a dropdown. Click it and you will find this as one option.

[Guenterm (Win11, MAC OS, DPL 5, FP, VP, Nik4, Olympus)]

Dear Mark

thanks for the big screens

I didn’t noticed that, really

But does it mean when exporting a raw the first time I must set it “Action Export as Tiff” and re exporting a TIFF has set it to Action “Export without processing"

Thanks again to lead a blind the right way

[rrblint (Mark)]

@Guenterm

But does it mean when exporting a raw the first time I must set it “Action Export as Tiff” and re exporting a TIFF has set it to Action “Export without processing"

Yes, this is entirely correct. How do I know? I made the same mistake at first.

[Guenterm (Win11, MAC OS, DPL 5, FP, VP, Nik4, Olympus)]

Made a test

If I forgot to set the Export settings back to “Action Export as Tiff”, choose another Raw and export it to NIK SEP I got the message

and after click the OK button an empty screen

sounds similar to problem @Brent has described here Error unsuported image format while launching an image from DXO P4 - Nik Collection by DxO - DxO Forums
Brent solved it by resetting settings…which perhaps is “Action export as TIFF”

best regards

Guenter

[rrblint (Mark)]

The Nik collection will not accept RAW files. You need to send back the exact same Tiff file that you edited in SEP originally.

[Guenterm (Win11, MAC OS, DPL 5, FP, VP, Nik4, Olympus)]

Dear Mark,

i agree but then it would be a good idea to create the program like this

• if it’s Raw file then go to default setting TIFF
• if it’s TIFF file then bring dialog again as TIFF with processing or TIFF without processing or JPEG

that would be a little kind of errorhandling to beware old man like me for getting confused

but now I’m happy and I will light a candle for you this evening

[Guenterm (Win11, MAC OS, DPL 5, FP, VP, Nik4, Olympus)]

Dear Mark,

do you have also some ideas why my settings are so different from the one shown in the help
(see my second entry)

Or do we have to leave @stevenL from the chain.

[rrblint (Mark)]

@Guenterm

• if it’s Raw file then go to default setting TIFF
• if it’s TIFF file then bring dialog again as TIFF with processing or TIFF without processing or JPEG

Yes, I agree. This would be a great feature to have.

@Guenterm

I will light a candle for you this evening

Thank you for being so considerate (is it Guenter?)

[rrblint (Mark)]

I’m not sure. I’m on Windows. Are you on Mac?

[Guenterm (Win11, MAC OS, DPL 5, FP, VP, Nik4, Olympus)]

Im also on Windows

[Wolfgang ([ Win10, PL+VP+FP, Nik6 (+3) ])]

Hello Guenterm,
the screenshot PluginSelector from dxo.com >> help >> Non-destructive workflow / Nik Collection 3 shows additional format options, which unfortunately is only available in the MAC Version.

While not everybody might use the different format options, resizing a file to accurate output-size first is recommended (if not to say critical) before processing in Nik Output Sharpener for printing. To resize as a last step counteracts sensible output sharpening (see also Dan Hughes tutorials).

So, as long the format options are not fully there, one can circumvent e.g. with export to disk …
lg, Wolfgang (WIN 10)

[Guenterm (Win11, MAC OS, DPL 5, FP, VP, Nik4, Olympus)]

Dear @StevenL,

may I ask you to compare the different settings Wolfgang described and maybe put it on your list if there are lot of differences.

Thanks a lot

Guenter

[StevenL]

Yes, thanks @Guenterm.
I will give a deeper look at it…