So why are you using DPL if it has so many bugs supposedly?
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I am running DPL on a Mac and not on Windows like you but on my side DPL is running very smoothly.
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Hi Greg, what are the bugs you have in mind ?
Hi
Have you see the thread with GPU benchmark on this forum ? You will see the GTX 1050 ti there in the shared spreadsheet
Dear @Lucas,
I’ve tried to find an passive cooled GPU from the series NVIDIA GTX™ 1060, AMD Radeon™ RX 580 but wasn’t successful.
I’v found a webpage https://graphicscardhub.com/best-passively-cooled-graphics-card/ with some recommendations but not sure if one of them will be used by deep prime.
Can you tell for what specs I have to look to choose the right one.
My system is absolut noiseless and using it for the next time I would like to have more horsepower but without noise.
thanks a lot
Guenter
You can find some test results by forum users ín a table in following thread.
Hello @Guenterm,
I don’t know any fan less good enough GPU. Compute power comes with more heat. NVIDIA GPUs have usually heated less than AMD ones, but are also more expensive. My best bet would be checking the low end GPUs of the latest generation for each vendor, which are supposed to be the most energy efficient. You can see how much they heat with their TDP in W, mix this with benchmark score and you should be able to make a choice.
I have bought s tower and it has sound proving that for me rsllyi works. Fans thst replaced the original ones and an oversized processer cooling. It might be worth looking for this sort of thing as the days of passive cooling have at present goner I fear. It amazed me how big the cooling devices were and how well they work, my laptop runns with more noise than the tower.
the Palit GeForce GTX 1650 KalmX 4GB GDDR5 Grafikkarte passiv 2xDP/HDMI sounds very well, thank you for the help, but there is still one question left.
How can i be sure that this graphic card is supported for speeding up deep prime? Must I have a look for special tech specs, and if yes for which?
Thanks for any help
Guenter
Hello,
I’ve got the answer from Svetlana in the post GTX 1650 compatibility with DeepPRIME
I think it doesn’t matter if an 1650 card is passive or active cooled
Maybe this information helps other members too
@Lucas Can I expect that all nvidia chiped cards between the 1050 in the specs and the 1650 I asked for are working?
Thanks a lot
Guenter
I expect them to just work yes. Just expect lower performance than with a fan cooled one.
The link posted by @Man shows ~15% lower working frequency. Also as the chip will run at 90°C instead of 65°C it may not last as many years. 90°C is really the maximum allowed temperature according to https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/gtx-1650/ (in View Full Specs)
Left column is GTX 1650 with GDDR4 memory, right column is with GDDR5 memory.
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Yes, but even 4.0.2 is built with 1.3 DML, so users need to have 1903 or later build.
To enable earlier builds - need to use 1.4 (at least according to release notes: https://github.com/microsoft/DirectML/blob/master/Releases.md ) which is redistributable.
I just tested on LTSC release (technically 1809 build) and it does not work, when “normal” W10 build with exactly identical specs is in google table. In log i only see “DopCommon - Info | The GPU device NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 does not support machine learning.”, while the same setup works fine on later windows version.
So either rebuild with redistributable directml, or add limitations to release notes, that GPU acceleration on Deep Prime won’t work on earlier builds than 1903…
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FWIW
I have updated W10 to version 20H2 and so far apart from the (undisclosed) step to manually “restart” the PC three extra times to settle a few glitchy W10 running issues…PL4 seems fine 
PS Though I had been using MS Edge, the 20H2 update seems to have affected its stability as in it freezes and is slightly slower to close down the multiple tabs I have open routinely.
Agreed. I just learned that users of Windows 8.1 are SOL re DeepPrime, which was pretty much my sole reason for purchasing the software license in the first place. And yes, I know nearly everyone hated Windows 8, but why should I be punished just because I’m one of the six people who liked it?
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Greetings,
I’m sure you are aware Windows 8/8.1 went out of support in 2018. Its under extended support until Jan 2023.
You can still upgrade to Windows 10 for free using your W8 key. Why not upgrade?
You can enjoy all of PL4’s fantastic features. While the Metro Interface was greatly improved with 8.1, 10 has a fully customizable start menu with tiles, live view, better search and security.
If it were going to cost you something sure, but it appears you are holding yourself back and not having something you could own for free.
And then… GPU acceleration on Deep Prime (KaPOW!)
Windows 10 compatibility mode will run everything that windows 8.1 will now.
I hope you’ll consider it.
Very funny !!
If it’s any help, I was reluctant to move to Win10 too (from Win7, in my case) - but having taken the plunge, I’ve not regretted the transition.
John M
John-M,
Agree. Although, I’ve used them all since 3.1.
Millennium, Vista and 8 (before 8.1) were some of microsoft’s lows.
7 and 10 was and currently are favorites.
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Thanks for the replies. I may have misled a bit, I am running Windows 10 along with 8.1 in a dual boot config for reasons I won’t bore the group with. All my editing software functions with either OS so I can work in whichever environment I happen to be in—and I guess that’s technically true with PL4. I just won’t be doing a lot of DP exports while I’m in 8.1. 
Hi Guenter, if your graphics card is still pending …
3 years ago, I got a big tower ( https://www.bequiet.com/de/case/705 ) with i7-8700 + air cooler (Bequiet), Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB (activ cooler), power adapter (Bequiet) … It just fits under my desk with space all around (cooling system not obstructed), is really quiet and works for me (no gamer, no overclocking, stable drivers). And even in hot summer, I don’t see temperature exceeding 60 / 70 celsius, otherwise far below.
The modell GTX 1060 is already outdated, but instead you can get GTX 1660 or GTX 1660 Super (2 slots, check size …, 120/125 W max).
Of course there are faster cards, but they consume more power and produce more heat (see comments from Lucas).
have fun, Wolfgang
I would not hesitate to buy again. When running, the noisiest component is a 8TB data grave, while OS and scratch disk are M2.storage.