@BHAYT, I found it now!!! It’s hidden in the FILE menu:
I was searching it in “Image” => “Metadata …”.
It works. I thought I had to type every single GPS location manually into the relating data fields.
But what do you mean with AS(ON) and AS(OFF)?
@Ralf_Brinkmann My shorthand for
Leaving ‘Synchronize metadata with XMP sidecar’ = Blank = AS(OFF), setting that field = AS(ON)
Because it used to be shown as
Ah, ok. I don’t use this *.xmp switch and leave it OFF because I only use PhotoLab and *.dop files, no Lightroom, Photoshop and so on.
If I can just add - setting the metadata to auto-sync has a nasty tendency to blitz your folders with XMP files as soon as you browse the folder and whether you have changed anything or not.
Since I write all my metadata directly to my RAW files, this is a right royal PITA (douleur royale dans le cul / eine echte Nervensäge) 
@Joanna, nothing is flooded with *.xmp files here because I don’t use them. And in earlier versions, the GPS metadata was ALWAYS automatically compared with the RAW file or this data was imported into PL. That should definitely be restored, I think with a switch that you can turn it on or off according to your own taste.
In the example test I documented I used GeoSetter and created an xmp sidecar files. What do your settings look like for GeoSetter and are you putting the GPS data into the RAW file?
That’s because you have turned off auto-sync for metadata.
The problem is, once PL has read the metadata from your files, it writes it to its database. This means, to save time and effort, PL goes to the database to read it back in again instead of going back to the file.
So, if you open a file without any GPS in PL, blank GPS data gets written to the database and, if you then add GPS outside of PL, PL will read “nothing” from the database, even though you have updated the file.
In order to make PL catch up with that change, you need to go to the File menu and force PL to re-read the metadata again.
@Joanna, but that’s new. As I wrote before, in older versions of PL I could have both programs open at the same time, PhotoLab and Geosetter/ExifTool and always after or while editing an image write the geolocation to the RAW file and it was updated at once in PL. That was never a problem for me.
But by the way: This discussion helped me a lot, because now I know how to get my GPS data from the RAW file into PL. I didn’t know there is a button for manually updating these informations in the database.
I write the GPS data and all IPTC data into the RAW file. These are my settings:
A shortcut for “Read [metadata] from image” would be nice.
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Edit:- Sorry ! I misunderstood that you were asking for a a 'Ctrl+ … etc.) command. I have been asking for the command(s) to be added to the Thumbnail right click menu and adding a shortcut would also be useful @sgospodarenko
but I must admit the menu is already on the big side!
It’s the same command, PL5 is smart enough to take data from both the xmp sidecar and the image automatically with AS(ON), manually with AS(OFF), with xmp sidecar data taking precedence over embedded metadata (I believe).
Hence, the nearest equivalent to the old way PL4 way of working is AS(ON) but that is a “two way street” now. With PL4 the DxO immutability “constraints” meant that no metadata was written to anything other than the database and the DOP (only the ‘Rating’ and ‘Rotation’ to the DOP) I believe.
Hence, the loss of the database meant that a lot of metadata entered directly into PL4 would be lost (except for any exports), but all that entered from the image would still be intact in the image (by image I mean JPG, TIFF, DNG and RAW file and/or in an xmp sidecar file accompanying a RAW file).
To re-iterate, up to PL5.3.0 the initial discovery of a “new” (to the database) image would cause the metadata to be read from the xmp sidecar file and/or a RAW file automatically or directly from JPG, TIFF and DNG.
Thereafter AS(ON/OFF) would control the automatic metadata updating or the need for manual reading of the metadata from the image (JPG, TIFF, DNG & RAW plus an xmp sidecar file for a RAW if it existed). Please note that PL5 embeds all metadata updates for all image types EXCEPT RAW, where an existing xmp sidecar will be used or a new xmp sidecar will be created, to store new or updated values of metadata fields.
From PL5.3.0 the AS(OFF) now signals a change in the action taken on a new discovery and PL5 has “reverted” to the PL4 action and takes metadata from the DOP.
I believe that with PL4 because of the restricted amount of metadata held in the DOP all the rest of the metadata was still obtained from the image!
However, with the greatly increased amount of metadata that PL5 is now handling a PL5 DOP is effectively a “road-block” for any metadata from the image, i.e. I believe that no metadata is ever taken from the image if there is a PL5 DOP at the time of first discovery with AS(OFF) @sgospodarenko can you please verify this with the developers, my tests seem to indicate this to be true but I have not tested every metadata field and have not tested GPS in particular.
@sgospodarenko understanding this is critical to any and all advice that we might try to impart to other users and testing it exhaustively is just that, time consuming and exhausting!
I hope that things are falling into place and thanks for the GeoSetter update so my settings were
Morning,
- Yes, at least for the images provided by Ralf it’s true, on MAC the GPS is displayed.
- No need, I tested via the previous version and GPS is not displayed either.
- Yep, for your images GPS is not displayed both Mac and Win.
Regards,
Svetlana G.
Thank you for investigating!
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Thank you Svetlana
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