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Thanks again for the tips

I’ve migrated over from the darkside (Lightroom) and am used to completing a vignette in literally a couple of secs, a very quick and simple task. The controls for vignette aren’t dissimilar in function to what you have just posted. It feels unnecessarily long winded to use another app for this imho

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I would agree but if you can get an old or new version of Film Pack it then becomes seamless.
I still think though that it’s nonsense not to have it in Photolab

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The best workaround I’ve found is to brush an arc into the 4 corners, feather 100%, lower exp to suit. Comes out quite nice and doesn’t adjust the whole image

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So do I have to purchase filmpack to be able to access the vignette function. It used to be under fx.
Any help appreciated

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Creative Vignetting has always been a part of Filmpack and has always required a Filmpack license. That you had access to it previously but not now would suggest that you need to activate your filmpack license from within Photolab.

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Thanks for this idea. I find it much better than the creative vignetting option, which Is not feathered enough to my taste. The approach using control points gives a lot more control and nuance, and yes, one can add a second control point next to the first, if needed…

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Thank you for this tip. I’ve tried it on several photos but I’m somewhat disappointed with the result.

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I agree with you. I find it unacceptable having to purchase Filmpack to gain access to a vignette that darkens. And yet somehow, this collective feels that it’s “normal” to purchase Filmpack to gain access to a feature that is standard in every other RAW editor? I tried Wolfgang’s suggestion and while I appreciate the workaround, it’s not what I’m looking for.

I will continue to use my perpetual (and aging) version of LR 6.14. I will welcome DXO providing a “proper” and full featured vignette capability in a future release of Photolab elite. And I will happily reinstall/upgrade to this elite release without having to purchase an add-on.

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… modify the size of that inverted CP and play with the opacity. :slight_smile:

For me the easiest & best solution is contained in Nik ColorEfexPro

grafik
( shown here in the Nik 5 version )

as at the same time one can adjust the Centre Luminosity
and get an ‘invisible’ vignette (difficult in FP),

whereas in PL one needs an extra control point.

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The whole PhotoLab suite is the complete raw editor. All the features of FilmPack and Viewpoint are already built in to it. The reason that you need separate licenses for FilmPack and Viewpoint is to give more inexpensive options for users who don’t want or need the features in those products, or cannot afford the full suite. DXO could have made a single version of PhotoLab Elite with all those features available, but then the cost of PhotoLab would be significantly more expensive to accommodate all that additional functionality. If you want all the features that PhotoLab has to offer, then you need to buy the entire suite. It’s as simple as that.

Mark

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It would indeed have been a more than exaggerated price for such a software, isn’t it ? I think it would have become unsoldable !

I too have filmpack and only use the Frame function of it (and only plain white or black frame).
And I even can’t choose any thickness I want (0 isn’t 0 pixels), nor the color I want (black or white - nothing else) !!! VERY EXPENSIVE VERY INCOMPLETE FUNCTION !!! Isn’t it ???
Looks like an old heritage put there because available without any desire to make it evolve (only to make it usable on new hardware).
Honnestly, who needs to create old fashioned pictures ? This is a very very little niche.

Dxo commercial strategy is not very friendly but rather aggressive in a bad way.

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True, to get the full function you need PL Elite, Film Pack and ViewPoint. In the UK at retail that comes to £417 which is quite expensive, makes Capture One at £299 not so bad :slight_smile:

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Great, idea. Better than vignette option PL normally comes with.

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I was testing the trial version of Filmpack to create borders, but I was so disappointed by it, that I decided not to purchase it. There is no way to create borders with a different aspect ratio than the image, such a basic function.

I really don’t understand this separation either. Isn’t there already PL6 and PL6 Elite for separation? Basically PL6 Elite is just the basic version. In PL6 they have at least added some function from Viewpoint. Let’s hope that they will do the same with some basic functions from Filmpack (like vignette, contrast, black and white color filters, …). These are basic functions.

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What’s needed is more more controls on control points than an extra control point designed for vignette.

Which could be :

  • About shape :
    Circle/Elliptical shape (with very easy way to go back to circle - double clic on the ellipse side wanted to be the radius for example), hand drawn shape (why not dream), optional (so no problem when not needed) feather control, luma selection curve instead of slider (with resizible window and numeric inputs to get as precise result as needed), and chroma selection gradient instead of slider (with resizible window and numeric inputs to get as precise result as needed).
  • About usability :
    A better way to adjust precisely sliders than move mouse right, move mouse left and hardly get the result you want. This would also help to lose less hair by pulling out.
    Here are two efficient methods used by other softwares :
    1 - having sliders move 10(?) time slower when CTL/COMMAND key is pushed when sliding.
    (Even better would be to let the user enter the factor he needs - not in preferences, but in an input field accessible when the tool is open. This would help with different screen resolutions, different mouse speed, etc… That custom factor should of course be stored and recalled from cession to cession - as about every custom parameter should be).
    2 - having left mouse button opening a little ladder with coefficients (4 or 5 predefined coefficients) for left mouse clicking before left mouse sliding (not the best method because slower to use than the first one - more clics and mouse motions to do).
  • About functions :
    A new luma function that would allow the Darken/lighten thing for vignette.
    All possible functions added to control points.

This would give maximum flexibility to control points I think.

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… it was about how to get an invisible vignette (difficult in FP)

note
Nik 6 added “Diffusion” for control points to better control the CP’s content
(let’s see, if we get this in PL)

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Don’t have 6 version. Is it a kind of feather feature (with less control than usual feather ?) ?

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Yes, you have to play with exposure compensation to get a more luminous center and balance this with FP plugin to get the vignette you want.
And of course tweak transition to get an invisible vignette.

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@JoPoV

Don’t have 6 version. Is it a kind of feather feature (with less control than usual feather ?) ?

I don’t have Nik 6 either – but check this video by Robin Whalley.

Yes, you have to play with exposure compensation to get a more luminous center and balance this with FP plugin to get the vignette you want.
And of course tweak transition to get an invisible vignette.

Yes I know, but it is way less effective & comfortable than in Nik CEP “Darken Lighten Center” module
.
and before I start the FP PlugIn (in small increments !) + adjust the global exposure in PL,
I go with two CPs – much quicker (and I only need the ‘invisible’ vignette to direct the viewers eye).

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