Frame Size: Change values to make them "true"

DxO PhotoLab Feature requests
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The FRAME tool displays frame size in a way that could easily be corrected so that figures display the real thing…
Bildschirmfoto 2021-01-24 um 15.54.38

When frame size displays “0” as shown above, DPL adds a frame that is 100 pixels wide.
If set to “200”, frame width will be 300 pixels. At least with EOS 5iii .cr2 files

I propose that DPL

  1. display the real figures (e.g. 300 for a 300 pixel wide frame)
  2. allow frame width to go down to 1 pixel

Note: With files from my EOS 5D (original model), the numbers do NOT correspond to pixels, WHAT A MESS.

I therefore also propose that DPL tell us what the figures actually mean.

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I also would like a frame size entry in single pixel increments, so that I can add black and white lines …

3

…it is possible with a workaround: Add an outside black frame of XX width, export, add an inside white frame of <XX width to get something like this:

Rings-sRGB-2
Rings-sRGB-22298×1569 327 KB

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@platypus
like hopping procession of Echternach
apt visualization :slight_smile:

Framing is one of those tasks, why I still print from old PS.
have fun, Wolfgang

5

The problem had already been raised here.
You can also add black and white lines with FilmPack.

6

yes, and we want DPL to evolve too :wink:

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@Franky
thanks, checked the link

@platypus
Well yes, up til now one can set values in Filmpack but as you wrote, they seem to react in relation to the picture size – and I’m missing value entry in pixel size.

so, what I need with framing

  • add 2 px full black (= enlarge pic by 4 px),
  • add 8 px full white (enlarge by 16 px),
  • add 2 px full black (enlarge by 4 px)
    – together producing a nice double line –
  • plus big white frame (my ‘passepartout’) with description & signature
    (can’t be done with watermark)
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Something like this?

20081002-8642-1-1-1-1-1
20081002-8642-1-1-1-1-15432×3880 3.48 MB

Done in PhotoLab:

  1. add black frame outside -> export
  2. add white frame inside -> export
  3. add black frame inside -> export
  4. add white frame inside -> export
  5. add white frame outside -> export

It’s a bit tedious because it cannot be done in raw alone,
but as a finishing touch before printing, it can be done.

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@platypus

Yep!
description left / signature to the right, a little bit bigger :slight_smile:

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Dealing in pixels can also be problematic. Not that I use frames much, but for me my photos are always 3200 pixels on the long side when I export the final image. Given that I crop for composition in PL, the pixel values would have to be calculated for every image to remain the same size on the final output.

Which is not to say that the current ‘mystery’ numbers should remain, but that we need to at least know their relationship to the real world. My assumption, based on the way watermarks seem to work, is that the number is relative to the final output size. Somehow.

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indeed, this seems to be the magic word :grin:

Strangely enough, on 22 Mpixel .cr2 files, the number indicated in the tool corresponds to the number of actual pixels added - minus 100. Using the frame tool before an export that resizes the image can deliver strange results. It is best to add the frame after export.

Looking at the sidecar file, I found (ignore the pipes)
||||||FrameID = “1”,
||||||FramingActive = false,
||||||FramingApplyToning = false,
||||||FramingOutside = false,
||||||FramingScaleFactor = 0.25, <- frame size is relative, the question remains: Relative to what?
||||||FramingSeed = 0,

FramingScaleFactor at settings 0/100/200 = 0/1/2

While checking the .dop file, I found “ExposureBias = 2.7755575615628914e-17,”

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@Franky, @platypus, @zkarj – solely in alphabetical order :slight_smile:

For printing, my pictures are resized for the exact output size etc., before they get their final ‘decoration’ (mhmh action).

Sharpening with PL4
Hi John, you might know, that resize /resampling …

Otherwise it would be indeed “Somehow” and not at all work with fine lines. – I don’t have any experience with online publishing, but I suppose also to better export to a certain size before adding lines / frames.

have fun, Wolfgang

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hi,

No change with the FP6 version?

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Unfortunately not, only predefined frames with some adjustment
– but honestly, I’ve given up on DxO for printing.

  • no softproof
  • no custom framing
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