As of DPL 4.1 (on Mac) there is this context menu:
The context menu relates to tools and palettes, not to the object the mouse sits on. The functionality needs some polishing imo. Here’s why:
when I select “expand all” all palettes expand and all tools in all palettes expand too.
When I right-click in a tool and select “collapse all”, all palettes collapse, except the one on which the mouse rested when I clicked. This means that the text should read “collapse other palettes”
Proposal
change wording to describe the scope of the commands
(e.g. collapse other palettes and expand all palettes and tools)
Having customized my palettes (Windows 10, 2-monitor-setup), I didn’t take notice of this behaviour.
But it happens in ‘DxO Standard’ and ‘DxO Advanced’ mode – and it doesn’t look ‘rounded’.
When I left click e.g. on ‘Details’ (a group which contains a collection of tools), this group collapses / expands, which corresponds with the right click >> context menu >> top entry ‘Collapse / Expand’
(in German: Minimieren / Ausklappen).
Then, when I left click on one of the tools e.g. within the ‘Details’ group, the selected tool
collapses / expands, which so far works uniformly.
Now with right click on the very same tool, I get >> context menu ‘Expand all / Collapse all’
(in german: Alle erweitern / Alles zusammenbrechen --> expression to be changed …),
but it will expand ALL tools in ALL groups,
while collapsing it closes everything EXCEPT the SELECTED tool. ???
This looks quite inconsistent.
When selecting a tool located within a group as a ‘subfolder’, I expect it to expand and collapse solely
and no other tools, but having all tools in expanded view on a single screen is just to much.
Better structured and therefore easier to follow:
By default, DxO Advanced opens ALL groups and gives an overlook for the tools
(including blue markings, if already edited). = check
If to expand / collapse all tools from the SAME group
only have ‘Expand all / Collaps all’ in the group’s context menu, = MISSING
or click on the hardcoded button (same group / expanded view) = check
When already edited, click the Activ Corrections button
to show ALL used tools in expanded view. = check
Wolfgang
tested with PL4.1.0 and 4.1.1 // edit: some clearer wording
@Wolfgang, you just submitted a screenshot with another language quirk: “Abkuppeln”. Sounds strange to me. I’d use “abkoppeln”, but then again, I’m not that good in proper German… Duden seems to be impartial between abkuppeln/abkoppeln…
@platypus, somewhat back to school 50 years ago, with all its up and downs
The English version uses ‘float’, which describes the future state while still ‘docked / coupled’.
In contrast, the German expression ‘Abkuppeln’ describes the activity to get to that state.
I would suggest to replace ‘Abkuppeln’ with the expression ‘Abkoppeln’, while ‘float’ would be more something else like ‘Schwebende Palette’, which is just too long to put in here.
Afaik, ‘Abkuppeln’ is a more direct or technical aspect (uncouple / undock), while ‘Abkoppeln’ can
also be used figuratively (decouple / detach / separate) …
I’m fine with any expedient expression, but the aforesaid behaviour could be revized. When software gets in the way (e.g. not well structured to be ‘self explaining’), it can hinder creativity and that should be avoided.
Anyway, have fun – and in case DxO is asking for special taskforce, w’ll chime in.
Wolfgang
[Oh Mann, das dauert immer ewig, bis ich ganze Zeug geschrieben habe. – BTW, bis auf die ersten Minolta-Jahre habe ich mit Nikon fotografiert, vor 15 Jahren mit Digital angefangen (Fuji S3 Pro, PSE, DxO, SilkyPix, Fuji HyperUtility), vor 10 Jahren die NIK Filter ‘abonniert’ … und 2019 DxO.]
So we must have a look not to mix the elements
For main section like Color, Light and so on there are different terms in the context menu like in the context menu by the sub terms as Color Rendering, Tone Curve and so on.
Instead of Ankoppeln/Abkoppeln I would use Angedockt/Abgedockt (like in Affinity) or Fest/Frei
Nun werde ich ein Glas Wein drinken und morgen noch einmal darüber nachdenken
