I don’t know if this has been reported before: When highlight or shadow clipping warning is enabled, the respective areas in the image are colored. Placing the mouse over such an overlay shows the RGB values of the overlay, not the ones of the image itself, which absolutely makes no sense (to me at least).
Example (shadow clipping areas overlaid in green):
Why dows it show an RGB value of 0/254/0 (obviously the color of the green overlay) and not the values of the image itself?
I’m using the current version 2.3.0 under Windows.
In my opinion, it should show the values of the image itself as I wrote above. That way, I could see it’s the greens that get clipped (it’s a very dark red area where the mouse cursor is placed).
What sense does it make to show the values of the color overlay?
Good to hear it. As I interpret it, the Shadow clipping indicator now combines the tonal clipping with out-of-gamut indicator. It would be a good idea to decouple those two bits of information because they serve a different purpose (one is shadow recovery, the other is predominantly an oversaturation issue).
While I’m at it I have a question for you, Svetlana. The out-of-gamut indicator is based on PhotoLab’s internal / working colour space (Adobe RGB), right? I don’t see it mentioned anywhere in the documentation.
I see – that explains why the Shadows clipping mask corresponds to Lightroom’s Soft Proof gamut warning for Adobe RGB profile in my example. So it’s not a working space gamut warning but display gamut warning. It would be useful to have both (and also output profile gamut warning), like in Lr.
Another comment on the ICC profile selection in the Settings: the option to choose Adobe RGB as ICC profile for your display might be confusing people who don’t know much about colour management. The setting only works well if two conditions are met: 1) you calibrate/profile your wide gamut monitor to Adobe RGB space and 2) your wide gamut monitor has a gamut which completely covers Adobe RGB in all hues. My wide gamut Eizo covers 97% of Adobe RGB but its volume exceeds Adobe RGB at 107% (i.e. it goes beyond Adobe RGB in some hues but does not cover all the hues of Adobe RGB), so choosing Adobe RGB in the settings would be wrong for my monitor. The default option is the best and shouldn’t be changed, in my opinion.
Hi Sankos - Thanks for this discussion/info on display vs working space gamut - esp. as I’d put myself in the category of one of those “who don’t know much about colour management”.
By “default option”, do you mean Current profile of the display device … or the Generic profile (sRGB) for display device ?
Hi John, in my opinion the “Current profile of the display device” option covers the most bases because it caters not only to the needs of people who perform hardware calibration/profiling of their monitor, but also to those who never venture into the Color Management options (by default Windows sets sRGB as your generic display device profile).
I see – that explains why the Shadows clipping mask corresponds to Lightroom’s Soft Proof gamut warning for Adobe RGB profile in my example. So it’s not a working space gamut warning but display gamut warning. It would be useful to have both (and also output profile gamut warning), like in Lr. … …
Yes, when preferences set to < Current profile of the dsplay device >, the clipping warnings react accordingly to the user’s screen … and in case of commonly used sRGB monitors limited to sRGB colour space … ( special thanks to @sankos for your findings ! ).
@StevenL
While this behaviour might have been intended for ‘ease of use’, it should be mentioned in the online-help.
Similar to Lightroom 5 (I’m still on that old version) users of PL’s Elite editon should have the option to choose ‘pure’ clipping or showing the restraints of colour space – another difference to the basic version, while attracting professional users.
I just noticed this issue is still present 2+ years later.
It’s not a problem for me as such, but I noticed it because the photo I was working on had blown highlights on a corrugated steel building so moving the mouse over this area caused a wild disco light effect on the colour patch as it switched from browns to a bright cyan and back over very short distances.
I you want the real pixel values zoom in, your mouse pointer on the desired place and toggle with CTRL-W. That short cut de(activates) the highlight mask and warning.
