Better User Interface

Please compare the visibility of tool titles as implemented in DPL4 and DPL3:

DPL’s title font is really too dim. Also, the triangles give an extra clue that ‘something new’ starts there. If triangles are out of favor, it’s okay-ish to ommit them imo.

Please reverse to how DPL3 looked.

While I’m on Windows, you still have my vote.

Reducing readability by introducing low contrast or small labeling
– see also About Nik 4 - SilverEfex 3 & Viveza 3
is counterproductive to a slick user interface.

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Yes, please DxO! Voted!

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It’s an accessibility issue. There are contrast standards out there which can be used as a guide.

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+1 !
unused palettes are unreadable
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Based on the main text:

Based on the numbers and spinner arrows:

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Yes, contrast is one thing and overall appearance is an other. Green on black wouldn’t be a great solution. It might look cool in a movie, but it’s still not very ergonomic…

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Are you saying The Matrix wasn’t a cool movie? :wink:

The first of the Matrix series was fine…but we’re neither back in the days when 640x480 was hip, nor in a distopic future…yet.

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I don’t understand what you are talking about…

I sampled the colours from the screen capture you posted (quicker than launching PhotoLab) and put the values into an online contrast checker. The first value relates to the text such as “Masque de netteté” (with a poor contrast rating) and the second relates to the “100” and the up/down arrows, which gets a better score, but not for small text.

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Ok, clear !
And easy to improve…
Screen capture shows that the item collapsed and deactivated is almost not visible.
A comparaison between last three versions on Mac, with an item activated or not :
PL2
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PL3
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PL4
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The most critical situation : when expanded or collapsed
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The switch is enough to see if the item is activated or not ; not necessary to grey it.
The triangle is very useful to see if expanded or collapsed.
So go back to previous situation could be the better solution !

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I couldn’t agree more and said so as soon as I saw this around the release

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If it’s okay for some people to not see a part of your site or your design, then why is that design element there in the first place?

Source:

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Agreed! In fact, the ‘greying’ of items denotes they are not available and the switch is actually available, to switch the block on.

Nice comparison of the different versions. It really stands out.

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I’m on a MacBook Pro and the display is calibrated to 120cd/m^2, so it’s not too dark. But I can barely read the labels of the disabled tools. The lettering is too dark or the contrast is too faint. Please increase the readability:

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Fully agree. Contrast is way too low. I also don’t see the necessity to grey out a tool, just because it is not active. Greying out something usually means that something is unavailable under given conditions.

The blue switch should do. Keep the text/background at around 200/50 and all is well.

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just to compare (Win10, EIZO 2560x1440, 80 cd/m²)

Thanks for sharing, Wolfgang. Thats a huge difference compared to 120 cd/m² on my Mac.

Well, the difference is not the screen brightness… It’s how text is designed to appear…

DPL3 (Mac)

DPL4 (Mac)

DPL (Win)

As we can see, DPL3 uses brighter text than DPL4, Windows seems to use taller letters.
DPL4 (Mac) is designed to be near totally user-unfriendly.

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