Adding and editing searchable keywords

In your original posting, you wrote about “add, edit” keywords. Adding and editing is rather different from searching.

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So let’s say I use an external DAM software for keywords and other IPTC data. I guess I use the DAM for image searches and selections for actual photo processing in PL2. But, if I do that, how does the IPTC data get into the resulting JPG? If I need to deliver a TIF or JPG file to a client, I need to make sure that at least the basic IPTC data - copyright, use rights, description and/or headline, location and hopefully keywords - will be inserted into the JPG.

This is the question I need to resolve to step away from Lightroom.

Obetz wrote: “In your original posting, you wrote about “add, edit” keywords. Adding and editing is rather different from searching.” No, It is not very different. Without adding the keywords there’s nothing to search for. I understand many PL-users have rather strong opinions against the possibility to get an option to add keywords. I still wish it could be added and I stand by my request: An updated Photolab with which we could add keywords and also use them to search for photos would be a much better and more useful software from my point of view. I am not a software engineer, but still I cannot imagine kewyords would slow it down. Handling text is not a big issue for any computer today.

Hi @Evildad,

persona I use Photo Supreme or Nikon View NX to add keywords to my raw files (internal or in xmp), and they are geotagged.

And jpeg produced by PhotoLab have all these informations inside.

The best way for you to check that it’s ok for you, is to download the trial version, and you will see that it works well.

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Hello guys,

I know that keywords support/editing was promised to you when we introduced the search functionality and we are going to keep that promise. So you can save your votes for something more important and wait for some time to get this one.

Regards,
Svetlana G.

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As mentioned by Pathal, that’s a standard function of any good DAM, though the way they do it and the flexibility offered will vary.

I’m another Photo Supreme user so I’d also suggest taking a look at that; the only other ‘serious’ DAMs (IMHO) are iMatch and Daminion Standalone, plus digiKam for Linux users. For other suggestions (& my other comments on the topic) see Recommended alternatives to lightroom for cataloging & integration with DXO

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Thanks for the link. I was trying out digiKam on Windows last night, I’ll definitely check out the other suggestions. I’ve been fighting this DAM fight for a long time, going from Canto Cumulus to Extensis Portfolio and finally Lightroom, starting with version 3.

Thank you Svetlana, you brought good news. Looking forward to this update, hopefully not too far into the future.

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What do you mean by “IPTC data”: IPTC-IIM or IPTC Core Schema for XMP?

Hi

Can the same key word or words be added to a batch of images?

Thanks!

Hello @DavidG,

Welcome to the Forum!

Yes, it’s possible - just select a batch of images in the Filmstrip and type the keyword in the text field -> it will be added to all selected images.

Regards,
Svetlana G.

Thanks a lot!

But not to the raw image, to the dop-file.
When I add keywords to my Nef-files using Exiftools Dxo is just reading them right.

George

I think Exiftool is appart from other software.
Most of them will never write to a raw file -except to DNG-.
I also like to use Exiftool to do the job and write directly into -a copy of- my raw files.

Patrick saved me a lot of work. The D750 is supported in ViewNx2. So I can add keywords to the nef in an easy way. Thanks.
That was my reason to switch to DxO, CaptureNx2 didn’t support the D750. A pity.
Still I think keywords should be placed in the raw files. I understand the hesitation, but …

George

Although I don’t like the approach, but IMatch writes the keywords into the RAW files and many user praise it.

As far as has been discussed in different posts, keywords are added to the DPL database - but not to the .dop sidecars.

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I don’t know of that.
But I just tried to export a nef with keywords added in dxo, the keywords are not added to the jpg.:flushed: I just assumed that to happen.

George

On previous tests I found that keywords are added to the output files. Please test again carefully. If output file still contain no keywords, you might want to restart your C and/or reinstall DPL or call DxO support. https://support.dxo.com/hc/en-us

Something strange is going on.
In PL1 the keywords are saved, I mean those I added before to the nef.
In PL3 the existing keywords are saved now too. Maybe my fault.
On 2 pc, one with a fresh install of both .Network and PL3 the in PL3 added keywords are not saved in the jpg.

George